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Title: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on May 20, 2018, 02:23:10 AM
Now this is something I can get behind. SNK is making a mini version of the Neo Geo MVS arcade cabinet called the Neo Geo Mini (https://kotaku.com/snk-announces-the-neo-geo-mini-will-play-40-games-1825908512) and comes with 40 preloaded games.

No date or price announced yet but this thing is looking mighty sweet.  ;D

Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on May 20, 2018, 07:27:58 AM
I have my eye on this also. I hope they market this in a way that I can walk in and grab one up. This thing will be awesome.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on May 20, 2018, 10:26:36 AM
That's cool, although is the arcade cabinet part really necessary? Its not a dealbreaker by any means, just seems like a way to push msrp up.

Someone should be sure to mention when they set a release date or when preorders open up.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on May 20, 2018, 11:28:01 AM
Personally I would rather they design their AVS controller as the system with the games built in and from there TV hook up. That was what I was originally hoping for. I am not sure, but I am thinking that the cabinet design might not be practical for long plays unless you are setting at the dining table.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on May 20, 2018, 03:23:29 PM
That's cool, although is the arcade cabinet part really necessary? Its not a dealbreaker by any means, just seems like a way to push msrp up.

Someone should be sure to mention when they set a release date or when preorders open up.

I think the arcade cabinet parts makes it a much cooler novelty than any of the Nintendo releases. I don't expect them to use high end Sanwa parts, so I don't expect the price to be astronomical. Plus, you don't need a TV, which is always nice.

I'll keep an eye on the release date and price.

As for long plays, these devices are not meant to be for that, they're novelties. Publishers just release higher end versions on consoles which are meant for longer play sessions.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on May 21, 2018, 08:02:02 PM
Personally I would rather they design their AVS controller as the system with the games built in and from there TV hook up. That was what I was originally hoping for. I am not sure, but I am thinking that the cabinet design might not be practical for long plays unless you are setting at the dining table.
@retro junkie I like the concept idea you mentioned.  Make a solid awesome controller and do it all from there.


How would multiplayer work in either case?

That does look pretty cool. Good find @CreepinDeth !
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on May 21, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
I believe the Mini has extra ports for more controllers if you want to do multiplayer.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on May 22, 2018, 06:25:52 AM
The extra controllers look like the Neo Geo CD controllers. But I think it is more of a USB connection.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on May 22, 2018, 10:14:01 PM
@CreepinDeth alright... that's pretty cool then!  hm... that makes it a lot better in my opinion.  These games are all about the experience gaming with friends - in my opinion.

@retro junkie - I've seen some potential images so far... but not the real deal for the Neo Geo Mini.

Here's the official SNK Corp website (I keep forgetting they are no longer SNK Playmore):
The NEOGEO mini - a video game console celebrating the 40th Anniversary of SNK’s brand is announced! 40 legendary NEOGEO titles will be included! - snk-corp.co.jp  (https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/press/2018/the-neogeo-mini-a-video-game-console-celebrating-the-40th-anniversary-of-snks-brand-is-announced-40-legendary-neogeo-titles-will-be-included/)
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on May 22, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
I'm kind of torn. I'm going to want to open this to play but I also want to keep it sealed because I'm a collector. Hopefully they're not so limited so I can pick up two.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on May 22, 2018, 10:26:36 PM
I'm kind of torn. I'm going to want to open this to play but I also want to keep it sealed because I'm a collector. Hopefully they're not so limited so I can pick up two.
I hear what you mean.  I have the Neo Geo X still... might unload it at some point... but I was torn on that same conundrum lol.

The Neo Geo X has raised in value... I'll create a topic on this at some point.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on May 23, 2018, 08:10:10 AM
@BLUEVOODU did you get all the extra games and stuff for it?

I've bought two of the snes minis, praying for another nes mini (supposed to come out in june) and bought those archival cases for the one i didn't open. Unless this turns into an AT Games dollar store kind of thing I'll do similar for it.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on August 28, 2018, 01:26:28 PM
@targetrasp Sorry... I think I missed this response.  I had the general game set that came with it, dock, 2 controllers ( I think it was 2)... and then Last Blade was included at the time.  There wasn't enough play on the system to justify buying the other games.  In face, it slipped out of active play pretty quickly.

I re-visit the Neo Geo X here and there now... It would be cool to check out this Neo Geo Mini as well.  Been tempted to look at it more since @CreepinDeth posted this lol.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on August 28, 2018, 11:09:52 PM
There's so much middle-aged man-cave bait out or almost out right now it's pitiful...
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on August 30, 2018, 01:13:17 PM
LOL.. why does it have to be middle-aged man-cave bait?  Why can't it just be.... this Neo Geo Mini looks awesome.  Everyone wants one.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on August 30, 2018, 07:17:09 PM
The prices I am seeing on this thing are not very encouraging.

 
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on August 30, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
The prices I am seeing on this thing are not very encouraging.
@retro junkie What are you seeing?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on August 30, 2018, 11:01:25 PM
holy crap...  IF I Am correct... I saw $250 at Amazon.com???????

What the what?!
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on August 30, 2018, 11:25:43 PM
holy crap...  IF I Am correct... I saw $250 at Amazon.com???????

What the what?!

Yep! Exactly!
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on August 31, 2018, 07:51:25 PM
Looks like 3rd party sellers overpricing. I didn't get a chance to get one myself. To be honest, I had forgotten about it with work and life stuff going on. Maybe one day they'll be at a reasonable price, lol.  :asdds:
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on August 31, 2018, 08:19:02 PM
@CreepinDeth LOL... don't old your breath on that one.  Sucks that it was such a limited run that it caused prices to be that high.  Sounds like they MAYBE should've made more.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on September 01, 2018, 06:19:09 AM
As always, Neo Geo stuff out of reach.  :(
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 12, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
@CreepinDeth @retro junkie @targetrasp my buddy sent this to me .seems it's back to being cheaper again ?  Like $100ish


Neo Geo Mini - amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1KN661/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_t1_BUrMBbZ2KQMKT)
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on September 12, 2018, 09:15:48 PM
Mannnnnnnnnnn, I just gave up and purchased a bunch of SNES games. Waiting at my post box everyday for them. I'm playing Star Ocean right now with English patch on a reproduction cart.  >:(
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 12, 2018, 10:02:44 PM
No NAM 75 or Baseball Stars...

does clicking your hyperlink count or do I have to click a banner ad? This may happen tonight DESPITE missing two of my most favorite NEO games
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on September 12, 2018, 11:21:33 PM
@BLUEVOODU - I pre-ordered this morning! I was going to post this as soon as I was able to. You beat me to it. Can't wait.  :)
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 13, 2018, 08:16:53 AM
@targetrasp I would buy from the ads at the top (click then navigate to the item).  I can make it easier in future links and setup direct links for certain items.

Did the remove Nam 1975 and Baseball Stars from a prior version? Or did they just not decide to include it?

@CreepinDeth lucky lol... I'm in the same boat as @retro junkie  and have spent all my gaming monies.  Star Ocean was a pretty cool game if I remember it correctly.. Cannot go wrong there.

I hope this is as cool as it looks.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 13, 2018, 10:12:39 AM
@targetrasp This might work:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D1KN661/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B07D1KN661&linkCode=as2&tag=bluevmg-20&linkId=cc0602e52f125606f32582d0a3c9166c

I Appreciate the support - Thank you.  This helps with Hosting and funding future projects where I need to pay for developer assistance. 

I want one of these.  I'm wondering how the included controller performs.  IE if the mechanisms are like the old Neo Geo arcade sticks.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on September 13, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
Not only have I spent my gaming money, I want one of these really bad.

https://www.analogue.co/pages/store/ (https://www.analogue.co/pages/store/)

 :'(
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 13, 2018, 09:56:14 PM
those are beautiful
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 13, 2018, 11:06:38 PM
OOOooo   we need a topic on those.  I like them … I like them  A LOT  ;D
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 13, 2018, 11:07:31 PM
@BLUEVOODU

Admittedly Nam 75 and Baseball Stars has never seem to be a big part of the SNK fanbases' favorites.

They're more of a nostalgic favorite of mine. in the 90's dad was part of a bowling leage and every week he went he'd give me $5 - $10 in quarters and i'd hang out in the bowling alley's arcade. I'd easily spend 4 or 5 beating Nam and the rest would be split between Simpsons, Baseball Stars, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and a bowling game with a track ball attached. I've got the baseball stars for the nes and it's great, but it's not nearly the same as on a neo geo product.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 13, 2018, 11:35:15 PM
YEah.. it's definitely not the same for the Neo Geo Pocket Color.  It's still fun, but not the same. I bought Baseball stars on Steam - That's pretty cool with the achievements.  My favorite version of Baseball Stars might be the Neo Geo CD version.  We need more Neo Geo conversation  ;D

Those are good memories!  I have some pretty similar.

Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on September 13, 2018, 11:52:58 PM
Not only have I spent my gaming money, I want one of these really bad.

https://www.analogue.co/pages/store/ (https://www.analogue.co/pages/store/)

 :'(

I plan on getting one of those as well.

OOOooo   we need a topic on those.  I like them … I like them  A LOT  ;D

Way ahead of you!

https://www.chickendinnergaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=127.msg880#msg880
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 14, 2018, 08:33:56 AM
yes you did, @CreepinDeth  lol... yes you did.   I completely forgot about that.  Zombies Ate my Neighbor lol - ah, such a fun game.

I'm going to bump that topic.  It's so pretty.  I want one   ;D
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 29, 2018, 02:55:59 PM
After ordering a mini I found this video and was a little depressed. I'm sure it'll still be fun but parts of this thing will definately be a let down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1VUrXJ8--8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1VUrXJ8--8)


Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on September 29, 2018, 06:12:37 PM
@targetrasp  I checked this out.  The video doesn't surprise me.   Also, It was hard to see the SNES Classic comparison.   I'm not sure it really looked better as he stated.  BUT... he obviously saw a difference.  Maybe it's more blurry?  But...not sure.

As far as the controllers... yeah... I get that.  The Neo Geo CD controllers were a lot more expensive.   On top of that, those microswitches would wear out on the controllers.  Customers would trade them in … or sell them to me and other people would buy them for parts.   It was VERY common to have faulty microswitches.  When customers traded in ANY Neo Geo CD gamepad, they were tested 1st.  With that said... I'm not sure how I feel about SNK creating controllers without microswitches.  $25 is not a bad price... and I'm sure they would be $20 more at least with Microswitches.

Quote
Clicky Thumbsticks is very hard to make.
True  ;D    AND more expensive.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 29, 2018, 11:05:43 PM
I'm painfully aware of the extra expense associated with those little microswitches. I bought a mechanical keyboard for home a few years ago then had to have one at work. I couldn't get work to pay the extra 100 for one so I bought a second one.

I would absolutely pay 20 - 25 more for the microswitches, I just may not have bought 2 controllers! I don't know why I assumed i'd get clicky controllers but the realization that wasn't coming was a let down.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on September 30, 2018, 03:09:22 PM
That does change things a little, expectations mainly. My Neo Pocket Color has click switches. My Neo Geo CD controllers have click switches. So this mini will feel like Neo Geo games on another console? Why did they go cheap on us?

And the odd button layout. It is almost like this was licensed out to a third party.  :-\

I really like the fact that they included all those KOF and the amount of Metal Slugs, plus Blazing Star. It would be nice having something like this sitting up somewhere, but the mini itself is so impractical to play on. Unless you have very tiny hands. The controllers are a must have if I intend on getting one of these.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on September 30, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
I'm starting to visualize a really cool display of miniaturized retro consoles (nes, snes, neo, psx, commodore 64,) Now if they'd do a GOOD version of the sega products on mini scale
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on October 06, 2018, 11:15:14 PM
@retro junkie

I didn't realize the neo pocket even had microswitches.. were they just in the buttons?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on October 07, 2018, 11:29:19 AM
The directional pad has clicky switches. Or it sure feels that way.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on October 07, 2018, 06:22:41 PM
Wikipedia agrees.

I've only ever seen one and never played it, I would have loved to have tried one out.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on November 12, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
Yeah... we need to create more Neo Geo posts... There's a lot to cover again lol  ;D


The clicky switches were nice.  But as I mentioned... they wore out quite a bit on the Neo Geo game pads.  I'm a bit torn if they should be used anymore... EVEN THOUGH I love the clicky switches.

These are out and shipping now, correct? Anyone have any experiences of the Neo Geo Mini to Share?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 12, 2018, 10:30:03 PM
I've not opened mine, contemplating getting an archival case and sealing it up.

From what I can tell the retro pi is where it's at. I'd bet I could buy a neo controller and use it there, have better resolution, and spend less than I did on international w/ 2 controllers.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on November 14, 2018, 08:24:44 PM
Those are really cool!   ugh @retro junkie … quit making me want new stuff lol.

@CreepinDeth How about you?  What's your experience so far?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on November 14, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
My experience so far is that it looks nice on my shelf, lol.  ;D

I haven't opened it and I don't plan on it. Especially since it's not exactly blowing people away with its greatness, or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on November 14, 2018, 08:43:20 PM
LOL... so leaving it sealed and reselling it later?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 14, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
nope, not ever reselling anything, ever... too many regrets!

my kids can pawn the crap off when I die and pay their houses off.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on November 14, 2018, 11:29:59 PM
Same, I'm not reselling either. Might open it sometime in the future but not anytime soon.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 15, 2018, 07:23:26 PM
I'm thinking that I'll find a used one somewhere... the nes and snes classics are easy to get now, maybe the mini will flounder after the holidays or everyone who gets one for christmas opens it and realizes its not awesome and pawn it off
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on November 16, 2018, 05:29:52 PM
Ben Heck is doing a teardown of the Neo Geo Mini. Good stuff. Here is part 1, part 2 should coming out soon. I'll post it once it goes live.

https://youtu.be/y2mkHTdN4w0
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 16, 2018, 06:30:51 PM
"oh gee, I wonder where the screws are"

I like this guy
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: retro junkie on November 16, 2018, 09:20:17 PM
Oh boy! Another handheld!  8) I like his portables.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 17, 2018, 10:01:16 AM
I can solder pretty well but this guy puts the kids in a Foxconn sweatshop to shame. what he does in about 30 seconds would have taken me at least 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: CreepinDeth on November 20, 2018, 08:02:39 PM
Part 2 is out and for those of you who like micro switches, you'll enjoy this video.

https://youtu.be/lJomuuq4QZ4
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on November 26, 2018, 10:00:42 PM
I can solder pretty well but this guy puts the kids in a Foxconn sweatshop to shame. what he does in about 30 seconds would have taken me at least 5 minutes.
LOL  :))  that's pretty funny.   This guy is pretty amazing...  So...  Does that mean there's a bromance going on here?

@CreepinDeth Part 2 is great as well... nice post ... keep it up  ;D
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on November 26, 2018, 10:06:35 PM
bromance... maybe a mild adoration for some serious skill...
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on December 15, 2018, 05:36:55 PM
lol bromance it is @targetrasp

There is some serious skill there... but you've fixed a lot of this kind of stuff up in the past as well.  You could probably do this... you and @retro junkie seem to be pretty handy around electronics.  I don't have the time right now... certification studies again... working on 2 before EOY and 8-9 (If possible) by next May.  However, given the time... I'd like to do more of this stuff and wood working... and guitar playing.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: targetrasp on December 18, 2018, 09:52:29 PM
you should combine woodworking and guitar playing and recreate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2mh7zGfFRM
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini
Post by: BLUEVOODU on March 14, 2019, 09:30:13 PM
@targetrasp lol... I hate to admit it... I just watched that video.   Pretty frickin cool how some things just come together.     That's really cool... and what's the over / under he was blasted during the entire interview? lol.

Has anyone else played their Neo Geo mini lately?